E36 323 Front wheels rubbing on chassis on standard 225 50 16's and oem suspension.
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    Front wheels rubbing on chassis on standard 225 50 16's and oem suspension.

    Hi there,

    Got a 323i coupe and currently both front wheels are rubbing on the inside of the arch, i.e the chassis behind and to the left of the strut. This only happens on absolutley full lock but doesnt seem right!?

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    Bought the car back in May because it had the front lollipop and the RTAB bushes recently renewed (powerflex on lollipop bushes and oem bmw bushes on the RTABS) had a post 98 engine and the car was generally mint with average to low miles, only 2 owners, plenty of history and fairly cheap. Anyway even though I managed to complete over 16,000 miles in my old e36 coupe whilst driving brisk/fast 90% of the time, I soon managed to crash this one head on into a barrier following the rear running away with itself in the wet (all my fault!).

    Car was a right off but I sourced the parts and got it repaired. Everything front end needed replacing other than the front wings that were untouched! The very ends of the chassis legs were also bent and I had these straightened. Before the accident the car drove straight and true but did tramline a bit, felt a bit twitchy and the steering kind of snagged when going over cats eyes/bumps in the road. The car drives exactly the same now after the accident as it did before and I just figured that the Powerflex bushes had made it a bit snatchy over bumps and it needed a 4 wheel alignment.

    Im pretty sure I spotted the OSF wheel rubbing on full lock before the accident but not sure whether I spotted the NSF doing it but its definitely rubbing now and I can hear it and feel it.

    What are your guys thoughts on this please? I havent been able to get the car in the air to have a proper look yet but if its driving straight with no noises, I cant really understand whats occuring. The wheels are both equally centred in the arch. The car is not running spacers or anything else and is on completelty standard boat like OEM suspension.

    Epic post I know but any help is appreciated. (pictures of old damage and her looking beautiful again to come soon with a project thread im typing up!)

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    Are those tyres the right size? Got a feeling they are a bit wide, might explain why they rub a bit... (I think that they should be 205 55 16, but could be wrong...)

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    Kevin is right you have the wrong size tyres

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    Thanks Guys but BMW sold e36's with both 225 50 16's and 205 55 16's. This is my second coupe and the first one came with 225 50 16's aswell. 225 50 16's are stated in the manual and on the B pillar sticker stipulating the tyre pressures. It would be nice if the rubbing was that simple though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seismic22 View Post
    felt a bit twitchy and the steering kind of snagged when going over cats eyes/bumps in the road.
    That's either down to the balljoints (most likely the outer ones) or the tie rod ends. When you say "Everything front end needed replacing", does that include tie rods/ends and wishbones? Have you had the alignment done yet? If not, replace all of that, then get it done. Should be a lot better.

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    I haven't replaced wishbones or track rod ends as I nor did the bodyshop where the chassis rails got done believe there to be any suspension damage and the car drove exactly the same after the accident with no front end as it did just before it. When I bought it it had not long passed its mot and up until the crash had only done a couple of thousand miles since. My intention is to get the alignment done but wanted to quiz you guys before hand as I didn't want to get an alignment to then realise I had to change a suspension component.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seismic22 View Post
    Thanks Guys but BMW sold e36's with both 225 50 16's and 205 55 16's. This is my second coupe and the first one came with 225 50 16's aswell. 225 50 16's are stated in the manual and on the B pillar sticker stipulating the tyre pressures. It would be nice if the rubbing was that simple though!
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    If the tracking is toe out it both makes the car nervous so it will pull all over theplace AND in extremes can be the difference between rubbing and not rubbing the rear of the arch liners.
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    Ok, well, see my previous post for getting rid of the 'twitchy' steering. I replaced my steering rack (with new tie rods & ends) and it was better, but only went away completely when I put new balljoints on.

    As for the rubbing, if it wasn't rubbing on one side pre-accident but now it is, that'd suggest to me that something's bent. If it was mine, I'd take it to get an alignment and see what they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABM View Post
    if it wasn't rubbing on one side pre-accident but now it is, that'd suggest to me that something's bent
    What he said (or something not replaced correctly)

    Could even be something simple like the alloy lollipop that holds the bush deformed
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    Thanks Guys,

    Yep my wheels are style 30's.

    I think Ill get a "free alignment check" that most places seem to offer and then go from there. "Adamantia" on here has had a good experience with a place in Southampton who seemed pretty knowledgable on E36's and BMW's generally and were also fairly cheap so ill try to head there on Saturday morning and report back my findings! Thanks again.

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